Réplica a Rick Falkvinge | PirateTimes

    • Perfect. Now I do not have to declare them to be childish and naieve ignorant people… they have managed to show it themselves to everybody ;((.

        • You forgot to add the link to your soporific article… XD

            • Thank you it is nice that you care to remind me of it. It has not been forgotten though.

              There you go:

              https://samedokan.wordpress.com/2014/05/10/when-pirates-do-prefer-censorship/

              Best read after:

              https://samedokan.wordpress.com/2013/09/02/klarmachen-zum-kentern/

              I have never refused to use logic and ethic, as a true pirate… and if it has not been an easy road… people like you are to blame.

              I won’t join the kiddies, they can’t be pirates without serious thinking.

              Your “populistic” viewpoints… giving big ignorant majorities the “certainty” of having no blame for whatsoever of their behaviour… may give you lots of ignorant votes somewhere… but does scare the hell out of any people capable of organizing anything.

              I can document that any time you dare me.

            • Yes, and you seem to censor them when I finally do.

              Do you really know which way you want things?

              Must I keep screen captures of what I post to expose your “pirate” behaviour elsewhere (what do you think I need that blog for?)

                • I love your mind… you are able to imagen such kind of things…
                  I never censored you in any place but in my own email account you are blocked. Aporta o aparta, you know… XD

                    • Do never use straightaway lies ;). I’ll try to have a view of your twitter account without logging out first in a moment.

                      Naieve and ignorant.

                      Without having to imagine.

                      And while my first comment here on @Piratetimes went trough without a glitch… subsequent ones are being moderated…


    • StuartMill

      These ideas have located Spanish pirates parties on the radical left (and maybe on the failure) together with Podemos. There’s no place for liberal pirates on Spain as on Germany or Sweden.


        • Spanish Pirate

          The article makes no sense. It’s full of inaccuracies and unfounded claims.

          Lots of people have left the pirate movement in Spain because of this ideological shift. The core values are being ignored, when in conflict with other political agendas.

          Such a pity…

            • Nothing in the actual situation of the Pirates in Spain makes any sense.

        • I’m curious (and one of the authors). Exactly which idea make us radical left? Here in Spain we have liberals who share this analysis about the current situation.


    • Stuart Mill

      Your vocabulary, your topics… Fight against capitalism, private property, exaggerated facts, I don’t recognise my country on your words. No ideas about how to empower business to create wealth in order to fight poverty and unemployment, etc. I’m sorry for Spanish pirate movement, but since long time ago is dominated by regional and nationalist ideas mixed with radical leftist. IMO Spanish pirate movement doesn’t exist anymore.

        • “Fight against capitalism”? We say “whilst the movement is not positioned against established (crony) capitalism and rather seek a new alternative system that suits the times we live in”.

          There is a slight difference.

          “private property”? We don’t say a thing about it. Just that sometimes private property goes first before other Human Rights.

          “No ideas about how to empower business”? That wasn’t the point of this article. If you want to raise awareness about this shortcoming, which I totally agree with, please, use the tools we use for that: https://debat.pirata.cat/ You are welcome.

          Even if I don’t agree with you, I welcome your ideas. I don’t feel the other way around. Pirates are a pluralistic movement, consensus should be our goal, not fleeing.

        • Thoug being strictly liberal is not the solution either, you are confusing leftism with plain ignorant populism.

          Being lefty is the easiest doctrine left for those that do not care to study what to be… and populist do exploit the fact to ease their takeover.

          But it must be a one-man wonder, because they can not structure and cooperate ;(.

          No way to be political, thus.

    • This is a lovely article, but you sound like a Green, not a Pirate. These issues you mention are all very important, but as a Pirate I feel the way to address them is through transparency. The first step in addressing any problem is in identifying it, and these issues you bring up are all woefully underreported by the the commercial media. The way to best way to have these issues brought to the public’s attention in our current model is the internet, boards, email lists, and social media.

      This is where the empire fights back. They attempt to chill discourse through spying, they attempt to censor with copyright, they don’t fund internet access as a human right. Pirates believe in a different tack than the Greens, that is: Free the information in order to raise awareness, organize, resist. Once people have the information, they will act in the best interests of the people, to enough of a degree that things will change. It’s not that Pirates don’t care about these things, they do. They just have a different order of operations, as they say in mathematics.

      Are you sure you wouldn’t rather work with the Greens?

      Love and Peace, -A feminist woman Pirate

        • As co-author, I don’t feel Green at all. Anyway, I like your approach. That was the kind of replies we were expecting. Thanks.

          We, the authors, think it is important in politics to say things crystal clear. If pirates care about something, we must say it. This is the way to push our ideology and see how it works. This is required in order to reach the general population.

          There is a little thing I don’t feel right about your comment: too much Internet. What is the penetration index of Internet in your country? Spain is about 75%. It doesn’t mean 75% of the population uses Internet. And when they use it, they are mainly trapped in propietary digital walled gardens, in their bubbles. It’s really hard to reach them reach in these conditions.

          We must tackle all the issues we can from our point of view, as Pirates. And we must do it outside Internet too.

    • Rick Falkvinge is an anarcocapitalist in his economic views. The Swedish Pirate Party is not. While it is hard to define what economic policies it has, it is most certainly not anarcocapitalist. If we are to keep the Pirate Movement together, we need to have a common core of values focussing on civil liberties and human rights. Economic policy should be left to the national parties to decide according to the local needs and conditions.


    • vill the pirat

      and again the same whining about refugees! Let put a point on that – they do not run to save their lives, they run to Germany and UK for better live. How much muslim brothers was welcomed by rich Saudi Arabia? Zero! Z-E-R-O! Real refugees stay in Lebanon, Turkey, Jordan some even go to Israel.

      If enlightened Europe want to help, it would buy and organize temporary cities in neighboring countries, send food and water. I really do not understand how people can be so blind and stupid with their “refugees welcome”


    • almasdar news

      برامج تحميل ، ان البرامج اليوم هى المحرك الأساسى للكمبيوتر حيث ان لكل شىء محرك ، لتصميم صورة رائعة تحتاج الى تحميل برنامج تعديل الصور مثل برنامج فوتوشوب الشهير التابع لأدوبي ، كذلك ان اردت مشاهدة فيديو رائع ، يمكنك ذلك من خلال تحميل برنامج يوتيوب لمشاهدة جميع الفيديوهات والقنوات الاخبارية والاحداث العالمية من خلالة ، وان كنت من محبى سماع الصوتيات والنغمات يمكنك ذلك من خلال تحميل برامج كمبيوتر.
      تنزيل بعض برامج الصوت مثل الريال بلاير او الميديا بلاير وغيرها من برامج الصوت المشهورة والمميزة ، لذلك سوف نرى ان جميع برامج الكمبيوتر هى محركات اساسية للوصول لهدف محدد وواضح ، وان كل شىء يحتاج الى برنامج للتعامل معه بشكل كامل وبامكانيات تجعلك تتحكم فيه بشكل شبه كلي ، لذلك ينصح جميع المستخدمين بتحميل البرامج التى تحتاجها بشكل يومى ، كما ان خبراء البرامج والكمبيوتر ينصحون دائما باعتبار الكمبيوتر هو ناقتك التى تحملك فى عالم الانترنت ، وينصحونك بعدم تحميل البرامج التى لا تحتاج لها ، وان لا تنزل البرامج الا التى تحتاجها وتستخدمها بشكل دائم ، وان هذا هو أفضل إستخدام للكمبيوتر للحفاظ عليه والاستمرار بشكل جيد ودائم .

      تحميل متصفحات الأنترنت :
      يوجد العديد من المتصفحات الجيدة التي يمكنك استخدامها للتصفح فى المواقع ، ولكن سوف ننصحك بعدة برامج مميزات ومتصفحات رائعة اثبتت بالتجارب انها الأفضل على الاطلاق ، اهم هذه المتصفحات ، متصفح جوجل كروم ، متصفح فايرفوكس ، متصفح اوبرا .
      تطبيقات أندرويد :
      فى عالم الاندرويد سوف تجد ان برامج الاندرويد اصبحت هامة جدا وان تحميل تطبيقات الاندرويد وبرامج الاندرويد ، وخصوصا العاب الاندرويد التى أصبحت شبه واقعا مثل لعبة بوكيمون جو الشهيرة والتى ظهرت مؤخرا .
      اصبحت تحميل العاب من أكثر الاشياء بحثا وتحميلا فى هذا الوقت ، نظرا لسهولة اللعب ونتيجة ان العاب الاندرويد لا تحتاج الى جهاز كمبيوتر ، ولا تحتاج سوف الهاتف الذكي الذى تستخدمة بشكل دائم مما جعل اللعب اكثر متعة وسهولة ويمكنك ان تلعب هذه الالعاب فى السيارة او اثناء السفر او على الطائرة او فى اى وقت .

      برامج اندرويد :
      أنصحك باستخدام العديد من برامج الاندرويد ، ولكن يوجد عدة برامج انصحك باستخدامها ، اهم هذه البرامج برنامج واتساب اب ، برنامج لاين ، وتنزيل جميع تطبيقات الشات ، مثل تحميل فيس بوك ، تنزيل تويتر ، وغيرها من البرامج الهامة التى تستخدم فى التواصل الاجتماعى ، تحميل برنامج يوتيوب وتنزيل فيس بوك لايت ايضا فهو نسخة خفيفة لاستخدامه الفيس بشكل سريع وسهل ، تحميل برنامج ايمو وتنزيل برنامج تيليجرام ايضا فهو برنامج سريع مثل الواتس اب ،هذه البرامج الأكثر تحميلا فى تطبيقات الاندرويد والأيفون .

      الخلاصة :
      يوجد العديد من البرامج الهامة والتى نرغب فى استخدامها ، ولكن اهم هذه البرامج التى ننصحك باستخدامها هى برنامج وينرار وهو برنامج مشهور فى فك وضغط الملفات لسهولة ارسالها واستلامها على الانترنت ، برنامج ياهو ماسنجر فهو أول ماسنجر ظهر فى عالم الاتصال على الانترنت . كما ننصحك بتحميل برنامج حجب المواقع الاباحية ايضا ، فهو برنامج هام جدا وعملي . يمكنك ايضا تحميل برنامج شير ات فهو من افضل البرامج الجديدة ايضا وننصح بتحميلة . وهذه تعتبر خلاصة لأفضل برامج تحميل كمبيوتر ويمكنك تحميل جميع هذه البرامج من الانترنت من خلال برنامج انترنت داونلود مانجر 2017 الجديد واخر نسخة .

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