This is our Last Chance to Reform PPI | PirateTimes


    • tree

      I want PPI to be a platform for cooperation of every pirate in the world. We need to come far stronger together and be staffed with fancy tools to inform, discuss and collaborate for making political initiatives.
      From my view PPI is an organization, from which NEVER since it’s existance came any support for political initiatives, not to mention political initiatives by their own. When I look into the Forum, I feel like having travelled with a time machine, because the Forum software is SO OLD, I mean, really, it’s at least 9 years old and never got updated. And that for the highest level of the “internet party” whereas every small private forums in the world got updated at least in 2011 or so. So the performance here is embarressing, and not only that: It also stifles cooperation between pirates beyond borders, because then noone takes this place seriously, lively or feels like using it. We need to grow together; the internet is universal, and so we have to be in daily practice on level of the pirate party bases.


    • tree

      I’d like to add something, it’s important that:
      • reaching out to all pirate parties gets far more efficient than one person going from pirate party website to pirate party website looking for an e-mail and sending it to the respective federal executive board and maybe also taking a route over the respective forum of the country, which is marked by merely activity
      • The aim has to be: If one pirate did anything constructive, than all pirate parties benefit from it; we need to stop re-inventing the wheel. We need to build stone on stone all at the same building. When pirate party S made an argu liner against TTIP, then this argu liner should be very accessable and visible for all the other pirate parties; it should be like “(pirate party B) Oh look, pirate party S made an argu liner for our topic TTIP; how practical, no WE have an argu liner for TTIP; good.”

        • Funnily enough, your first point actually describes how PPI got started. I was that one person, and that’s what I did for the 9 months leading up to the 2009 EU elections. now, it may not have been efficient, but you know what – it did actually work in its aim of increasing communication.

          Alas, after 9 months, the stress got too much though, and I had to take some time off. that’s when certain others got involved and bureaucratized it into what we have now. At the same time it morphed from being an entity designed to assist pirate parties internationally, into some kind of super international lobby NGO “thing”.


    • Ivan Voras

      Judging from my own experience in the PP and PPI, the problems are not structural or organizational, but of social interactions, and will continue as long as “being a pirate” means drastically different things to different people. It is unreasonably hard to get human beings to cooperate with people who are radically different from themselves.

      Either create a better definition of what a pirate is, or narrow down the scope of what any kind of PP organization (local or global) does to encompass only the bare minimum of “piratey” topics, such as fighting TTIP, and deliberately don’t even try to cover anything else.

      Of course, the third option is to continue this status quo and hope that a different equilibrium will simply happen by itself – which it might, in 10 or 20 years.


        • Brendan Molloy

          Hey Ivan,

          That is more or less the point of turning PPI into a meeting place for those discussions. It is a chicken and egg problem of how to actually solve the “what is a Pirate?” question without having a semblance of structure we can agree upon to have those discussions.

          By allowing any member to create a committee, those issues that Pirates find to be of interest to their Party will be strong and contain members, and work to solutions. Those that won’t will die rather quickly, and through this process we can very quickly build up an anecdotal understanding of the movement.

          I don’t want to constrain the actions of a free culture movement because we all come at the issues from slightly different angles. Instead, I want to better understand those angles so my Party can grow from the experience, as I’m quite sure the rest of us do as well.

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