Interview: Gregory Engels, Lost in translation | PirateTimes


    • Ed

      As I said at the time, the problem with it really boiled down to what I had presumed (and hoped) was a mistranslation – the English Wikipedia article on “Allopathic medicine” kinda sums up the problems nicely: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopathy

      I understand the pitfalls in translation by non-native speakers, terms which are seemingly harmless can carry a significant burden in their meanings as used natively. I’m glad this could be cleared up in a rather harmless way.

    • Just on CEEP – I would just like to add, possibly clarify that in terms of European Policy, at least for the UK it wasn’t an ‘agreement on policy by the group of diplomat-like delegates’, it was pulling together existing party policies that we had in common (and that we had put together through a democratic process), that were relevant to the European Elections. In the UK at least, there was also a vote to accept that programme by party members – although one that didn’t have the level of turnout we might have hoped.

      It should probably be noted that a lot of the proposals to CEEP were dropped because parties couldn’t support them, that is certainly true for PPUK, PPSE and PPCAT and no doubt others – and that is absolutely right.

      Had a delegate proposed something novel and not in our member agreed Policy programmes or principles, we simply wouldn’t have been able to accept it within CEEP. More to the point, our membership had the final say.statements

      The problem with these kinds of motions is that they sound a lot like policy, they suggest that parties (not just the PPI) have these aims, but they aren’t generally accepted by party memberships before a vote (or often after one). Whilst it’s great to see common values expressed, I am not sure what the value is of a statement agreed not by member parties, but by delegates.

      I’d love to see how many member parties of PPI intend to put the motion that PPDE has proposed to a vote of their membership before casting a vote at the GA.

      That isn’t to say there isn’t a decent way to do this – I’d actually argue that it would be very healthy for PPI to run something like the CEEP discussions more generally and generate these kinds of motions from them. After all, we all have policies in common (and many of us have policies that aren’t, and even some that are opposed).

      As to the motion that has come from PPDE, it is broadly policy in Germany, it has been agreed by the German party and I’d argue it’s something that other parties should look at, making use of the arguments and research PPDE no doubt has on the subject. That would be concrete policy development that can happen collaboratively.

      Oh and if anyone is interested in Pirate Policy at the moment, the UK is running a policy process – take a look at http://www.pirateparty.org.uk/policy2015 to see how we do things! (Oh and if you are a UK member, remember you can vote on the proposals soon!).


    • cross

      nothing cleared up for me, i still don’t understand first part from paragraph:

      “Further blocking of scientific work based solely on dogmatic arguments is no longer acceptable. ”

      what is really blocked? “scientific work” or “dogmatic arguments”? For me it’s absolutely different things.
      if you have arguments – just prove it for science medicine.
      World Health Organization are totally against non-science and complementary medicine.

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